[quote]"furviewingaccount":/users/355353 said: tldr; u should check out salvation, another one of trig's comics instead. Disma's Lair might've been better porn (or at least porn more suited to your personal tastes) but the story would collapse in on itself without non-con. In the no-rape version, the devils are presumably still freaky sex perverts, being a porn comic and all, but then they choose not to have sex with their slaves? Slavery is already non-consensual everything, a devil's sticking their dick in without a second thought. So then the demon's aren't slavers. But then who do they have sex with? Other demons? Would there be devils who like being dominated? That would totally mess with the plot of Disma (and perhaps hell at large) discovering that they can have fucked up sex with partners who enjoy it too. And if they're not slavers, why are the angels at war with them? My point is that without non-con, it would have to be a completely different story. That story might not be bad, but Disma's Lair was seemingly created from the beginning as a way for trig to explore more rapey stuff. Idk if the story was planned or if Trig just can't resist giving their porn plot (i suspect the latter lol) but either way the rape is built in pretty deep. I think that shift from porn comic to porn comic with plot did leave some squickular artifacts. Like rape isn't treated with any seriousness really. Most people who are into noncon don't tend to actually be into accurate depictions of rape (i think that's why noncon caught on as a term instead of rape) so we end up with things like Disma's slaves effectively being comic relief. And that clashes with a more grounded plot where Disma is being set up for redemption and probably without acknowledging the many many people she's raped. Though, that's maybe not so big of an issue. Porn comics always require some suspension of disbelief, even more so than other stories, as people mostly don't have hot kinky sex all the time. There's a balancing act there, cause giving the non-con more gravity might improve the story, but it would make the porn less hot, and it is still a hot ass porn comic. And It's not like stories have to make perfect sense to be good stories anyway. Sorry, I was in a type-y mood I guess. I don't know why, because there's really only one thing to be said, and I wouldn't've had to say anything else if I had started with it. That being: complaining about porn because you're not into it will always be a terribly flawed argument, especially on e6 of all places. It could've been the best yuri bdsm comic on the internet, but it's the best noncon yuri bdsm comic on the internet instead so sucks to suck I guess. You'll like trig's other comic, Salvation, more. It's got good etiquette lesbian bdsm and also world altering implications for Post-Fable (another trig comic) for some reason. [/quote] The noncon in this is extremely milquetoast lmao, I don't know what y'all are complaining about. I personally just really enjoy the domination dynamic between disma and virian and am very into fantasy slavery as a kink, I actually think the comic could use more explicit noncon since it's mostly conceptual rather than functional, which is an issue I have with a lot of noncon pieces.

The backgrounds of the two images above are designed like cyberpunk.

[quote]"renamonssissy":/users/1178051 said: I know, but this story would have been 1000% times better If that Mindstaff was never introduced. Like, keep literally everything the way it is. But make it so the reason Viv went to hell was just cause she was super Kinky and wanted to be Enslaved by a Demon to begin with. If this story was just Slave Vivs perspective of Dismas Conquest of Hell and rise to, I assume, Queen of Hell, it would have been really cool. Like, image if Vivs friends came down looking for her, and find her serving Disma, and she convinces them to join her. Demons tempt, right? The Mindstaff turns what could have been the best Yuri BDSM comic on the Internet to something that gives me a weird feeling of Squick in the back of my head whenever I read it. [/quote] But I thought the story was Viv was really kinky and went to hell, got caught and discovered she liked being a demon's pet cum dumpster

[quote]"renamonssissy":/users/1178051 said: I know, but this story would have been 1000% times better If that Mindstaff was never introduced. Like, keep literally everything the way it is. But make it so the reason Viv went to hell was just cause she was super Kinky and wanted to be Enslaved by a Demon to begin with. If this story was just Slave Vivs perspective of Dismas Conquest of Hell and rise to, I assume, Queen of Hell, it would have been really cool. Like, image if Vivs friends came down looking for her, and find her serving Disma, and she convinces them to join her. Demons tempt, right? The Mindstaff turns what could have been the best Yuri BDSM comic on the Internet to something that gives me a weird feeling of Squick in the back of my head whenever I read it. [/quote] tldr; u should check out salvation, another one of trig's comics instead. Disma's Lair might've been better porn (or at least porn more suited to your personal tastes) but the story would collapse in on itself without non-con. In the no-rape version, the devils are presumably still freaky sex perverts, being a porn comic and all, but then they choose not to have sex with their slaves? Slavery is already non-consensual everything, a devil's sticking their dick in without a second thought. So then the demon's aren't slavers. But then who do they have sex with? Other demons? Would there be devils who like being dominated? That would totally mess with the plot of Disma (and perhaps hell at large) discovering that they can have fucked up sex with partners who enjoy it too. And if they're not slavers, why are the angels at war with them? My point is that without non-con, it would have to be a completely different story. That story might not be bad, but Disma's Lair was seemingly created from the beginning as a way for trig to explore more rapey stuff. Idk if the story was planned or if Trig just can't resist giving their porn plot (i suspect the latter lol) but either way the rape is built in pretty deep. I think that shift from porn comic to porn comic with plot did leave some squickular artifacts. Like rape isn't treated with any seriousness really. Most people who are into noncon don't tend to actually be into accurate depictions of rape (i think that's why noncon caught on as a term instead of rape) so we end up with things like Disma's slaves effectively being comic relief. And that clashes with a more grounded plot where Disma is being set up for redemption and probably without acknowledging the many many people she's raped. Though, that's maybe not so big of an issue. Porn comics always require some suspension of disbelief, even more so than other stories, as people mostly don't have hot kinky sex all the time. There's a balancing act there, cause giving the non-con more gravity might improve the story, but it would make the porn less hot, and it is still a hot ass porn comic. And It's not like stories have to make perfect sense to be good stories anyway. Sorry, I was in a type-y mood I guess. I don't know why, because there's really only one thing to be said, and I wouldn't've had to say anything else if I had started with it. That being: complaining about porn because you're not into it will always be a terribly flawed argument, especially on e6 of all places. It could've been the best yuri bdsm comic on the internet, but it's the best noncon yuri bdsm comic on the internet instead so sucks to suck I guess. You'll like trig's other comic, Salvation, more. It's got good etiquette lesbian bdsm and also world altering implications for Post-Fable (another trig comic) for some reason.

[quote]"replica95":/users/772439 said: Well, Virian into at least since she immune to the Mind staff now (I believe) [/quote] It's not that she's immune, it just wore off a while ago and Disma hasn't used it on her again. She is pretty into it though lol

[quote]"renamonssissy":/users/1178051 said: I really like this premise but could never get behind the non-con i donno this comic was always mixed for me. Great Art, neat story.. really toxic relationship. but i get thats kinda the point [/quote] Well, Virian into at least since she immune to the Mind staff now (I believe)

[quote]"renamonssissy":/users/1178051 said: I know, but this story would have been 1000% times better If that Mindstaff was never introduced. Like, keep literally everything the way it is. But make it so the reason Viv went to hell was just cause she was super Kinky and wanted to be Enslaved by a Demon to begin with. If this story was just Slave Vivs perspective of Dismas Conquest of Hell and rise to, I assume, Queen of Hell, it would have been really cool. Like, image if Vivs friends came down looking for her, and find her serving Disma, and she convinces them to join her. Demons tempt, right? The Mindstaff turns what could have been the best Yuri BDSM comic on the Internet to something that gives me a weird feeling of Squick in the back of my head whenever I read it. [/quote] I think this is a genuinely interesting critique, def worth mulling over. I doo wonder of ther could have been a third option tho? 🤔

The detail in these is so good, tristera getting hit with rain in the background is just so satisfying. No matter how much I zoom in on various things, there's always more to see

[quote]"renamonssissy":/users/1178051 said: I really like this premise but could never get behind the non-con i donno this comic was always mixed for me. Great Art, neat story.. really toxic relationship. but i get thats kinda the point [/quote] I understand where you're coming from. But hey, they're demons. And act stereotypically amoral, as you might expect.

The fact this started as Trig "Trying new things" has turned into practically an unhinged anime harem story is just the best.

I really like this premise but could never get behind the non-con i donno this comic was always mixed for me. Great Art, neat story.. really toxic relationship. but i get thats kinda the point