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by {{james_howard}}

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h5. Chapters:
* "Chapter 1":/pools/20065
* "Chapter 2":/pools/22090
* "Chapter 3":/pools/24477
* "Chapter 4":/pools/27311
* "Chapter 5":/pools/33496
* "Chapter 6":/pools/38035
* "Chapter 7":/pools/44147
* "Chapter 8":/pools/49802
by {{james_howard}}

"Complete Series":/pools/44150

h5. Chapters:
* "Chapter 1":/pools/20065
* "Chapter 2":/pools/22090
* "Chapter 3":/pools/24477
* "Chapter 4":/pools/27311
* "Chapter 5":/pools/33496
* "Chapter 6":/pools/38035
* "Chapter 7":/pools/44147
* Chapter 8
* "Chapter 9":/pools/56249
by {{james_howard}}

Complete Series

h5. Chapters:
* "Chapter 1":/pools/20065
* "Chapter 2":/pools/22090
* "Chapter 3":/pools/24477
* "Chapter 4":/pools/27311
* "Chapter 5":/pools/33496
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* "Chapter 7":/pools/44147
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[quote]"Lovestruck_Warrior":/users/279720 said: [quote]"xdraconianx":/users/853412 said: What's wrong with an age gap? [/quote] UK probably reformed E621 rules as well 馃槀 [/quote] Wouldn't be surprised the UK fucking sucks..

[quote]"xdraconianx":/users/853412 said: Apparently people here hate them. My wife and I are 15 years apart and we met when I was 19 (I'm the younger). We've been together ever since and I'm in my 30s now, and she's the only person I've been with. We don't even think about the age gap anymore unless someone mentions it. I'm sure the people above are going to say something along the lines of her grooming me or something. I could say how that's not the case until the cows come home, but I'm sure it won't change a thing. [/quote] Well, from what I have seen and experienced, yours is not the type that people have a problem with. The version that people have a problem with is the older man with the younger woman. And that is where the hypocrisy is.

He really isn't looking at this the right way. Does he not remember that Agatha basically gave him pity sex due to his 18th birthday going badly? Al was never her "first choice". She simply just felt bad him, allowed him to lose his virginity to her, and it led to a casual affair that she still feels somewhat guilty about. This guy is delusional.

[quote]"ricky22":/users/228425 said: I've always hated the hypocrisy and double standards about age gaps. [/quote] Apparently people here hate them. My wife and I are 15 years apart and we met when I was 19 (I'm the younger). We've been together ever since and I'm in my 30s now, and she's the only person I've been with. We don't even think about the age gap anymore unless someone mentions it. I'm sure the people above are going to say something along the lines of her grooming me or something. I could say how that's not the case until the cows come home, but I'm sure it won't change a thing.

[quote]"xdraconianx":/users/853412 said: What's wrong with an age gap? [/quote] I've always hated the hypocrisy and double standards about age gaps.

[quote]"ddholmes":/users/465835 said: It's not just the age gap that's the issue it's also the case that it was Al's teacher one who has a dynamic above him and from all that has been shown what has Agatha given Al outside of sex [/quote] I'm glad we are finally acknowledging that Al was likely taken advantage of by an older person with a position of authority over him while he was in a vulnerable position, and, knew him before he was 18...yeah Al was kinda sorta groomed, ngl, and his attachment to Agatha is causing issues in his real relationship. I know she had a bad husband, but that doesn't justify cheating, and especially with someone who just turned "legal", that you are the superior of, and knew before they were "legal". The more realism the comic ads to the situation, the lessls sympathetic Agatha is.

This is some kind of fucked up, like everyone is saying, like i agree she isn't his first choice and more of an escape, my issue here is that i don't agree with Al on him being there first choice. Based on my experience in a poly and what I have seen, they seem to always be thinking and including him in on things sense he has been with them, Richard started out as a fling but became something more serious cause of the support he provided, just like Agatha did, the difference here is that it was honest communication on how everyone felt, Jill and Al had a spat, worked it out, and came to an understanding and romance, they let hom stay at their place, they have consistently shown love and affection, he is certainly not excluded. I think this first choice thing comes from a past trama, but we will see

Yeah, he needs a reality check.

Al wasn't even her first choice either.

You haven't thought about the kid, or the fact that if she wants to this further, and the possibility that this can start all over again. but with you being the husband, spot in all of this? Al do you really love her, and do you really know her as well as you think you do?

Aww, honey! :< It sounds like you need to talk to your polycule about how you're feeling, cuz this isn't healthy for y'all's relationship.

Al, brother, you aren't her first choice either. Don't ruin something you've seemed otherwise happy with to be a homewrecker in a relationship that will not last now any more than it did the first time. This is a surefire way to end up with nobody.

Poor Al. He's so childish. He doesn't realise he's not her first choice either. He's her escape. He's her guilty pleasure. If she has not begun legal separation proceedings, he's just throwing his feelings away.

[quote]"zombiedwolf":/users/677053 said: While i do think at some point an age gap doesnt really matter. You are both consenting adults after all. Its just when they first done it she was his 30 year teacher and he literally just turned 18. It was his birthday party after all. So on top of a questionable age gap, there is also more of a power dinamic as well. Like i said. This whole thing is messed up 馃憖馃嵖 [/quote] This right here is the key. A 12-year gap doesn't matter much between a 30yo and a 42yo, by that time in their lives they have theoretically both figured themselves out, at least enough to not be easily taken advantage of. But 30 vs 18 is very different, the 30yo should be mature and self-reliant but the 18yo is mentally no different from an awkward highschooler. Add in the student/teacher authority difference and the fact that it's [i]legal[/i] doesn't change the fact that it's irresponsible at best, manipulative at worst. On the plus side, at least this chapter looks like it's starting to address some of the bad realities of this situation? I'm not calling it yet, too early for that, but this [i]might[/i] actually frame the earlier chapters in a more responsible light.

Even though he's kinda off asking that of a married woman I do get his point, while I haven't had open/poly relationships I think you would eventually question what you mean for them and what you want in the long run.

[quote]"xdraconianx":/users/853412 said: What's wrong with an age gap? [/quote] While i do think at some point an age gap doesnt really matter. You are both consenting adults after all. Its just when they first done it she was his 30 year teacher and he literally just turned 18. It was his birthday party after all. So on top of a questionable age gap, there is also more of a power dinamic as well. Like i said. This whole thing is messed up 馃憖馃嵖

[quote]"ddholmes":/users/465835 said: It's not just the age gap that's the issue it's also the case that it was Al's teacher one who has a dynamic above him and from all that has been shown what has Agatha given Al outside of sex [/quote] I think she's given him a complex o.0

[quote]"xdraconianx":/users/853412 said: What's wrong with an age gap? [/quote] It's not just the age gap that's the issue it's also the case that it was Al's teacher one who has a dynamic above him and from all that has been shown what has Agatha given Al outside of sex

To be honest Al. This isnt really her first choice either. She is married and has been married for what ~15 some odd years? Hell, you could argue it only started out as pity sex, since your birthday party went VERY poorly. Hell the only things we've seen you guys do is sex. Is this love or is it just lust. Either way, this is a bad look for both you and Agatha. You engaging with her infidelity, and her cheating on her husband. With a questionable age gap. This whole thing is messed up 馃憖馃嵖