[quote]"just-some-guy":/users/571640 said: He's [i]aggressively[/i] right wing libertarian and lets it bleed into everything he makes... He's also made some uh... lets say questionable choices regarding race representation in his comics (like all jewish characters are portrayed as mice, all black characters are hyenas that speak in super stereotyped slang, etc) and he has a huuuuuuuuuuuuge cuckoldry fetish. [/quote] Racist right winger who's into being cucked??? No way who could have predicted this?

[quote]"icyjust":/users/682563 said: what happened I don't really know about this artist [/quote] His webcomic Better Days featured his self-insert Fisk Black being a gigachad adonis who fucked hot girls and joined the military to fight in the Iraq war so he could be a cool grizzled military veteran. He was publicly right wing when it was very uncool to be, and with the furry fandom being generally more left-leaning it got a lot of people pissed off at him, rightfully so in some cases. His self-insertion with Fisk was pretty cringey and blatant, and he used Fisk as a mouthpiece to spout his personal ethical/moral diatribes a lot. I don't really care about the politics angle and I don't fall into the pearl clutching left wing denouncement of him but using your furry OC as a soapbox to bullhorn your political and ethical takes is kind of embarrassing. He also used to publicly argue politics a lot with people on DeviantArt and other sites, back when people were first learning that you shouldn't feed trolls

[quote]"unholyjesus420":/users/2269752 said: Also, just a reminder, wearing a condom isn't just made for preventing pregnancy. Wearing a condom can also prevent the transfer of many STD's. Even if you and your sexual partner get tested and either or are on birth control, it's still a good idea to wear a condom. There is no real sex log, you can't see who've they'd had sex with previously, they could have fucking anything. Don't trust condoms 100% though, anything can go wrong. However, just in general, wear a condom. [/quote] Jesus here gets it!

[quote]"metalasmodeus":/users/569368 said: He and his fans are definitely fans of “relationship anxiety” stories. I wonder if it’s an outlet for what they worry about when it comes to things like open relationships, unrequited love, or a relationship that burned out down the road. [/quote] It's hard to say. I'm not super up to date on whatever controversies are surrounding him lately. But I've always infered it as general dislike of his content. Which is paid for by his followers. There is an arguement to be made about moderating your content so as to avoid public offense. But weighing paying your bills vs catering to smucks who don't monetarily support you is always a rough stance. Because more people would prefer to be paid than live in poverty. More over I can kind of agree with him. At least in so far as what little I am aware of. If someone pays him money and they and others vote for X content, well you make X content.

[quote]"legoking":/users/1046065 said: All this talent, used for this shit. I mean all people are inclined to what they like, but this kind of fetish is something I WILL critique and hate on. Cucking/NtR fetishes are some of the most disgusting things I've ever seen. Give me hate for it I don't care, it would only help my point.[/quote] You're allowed to have your opinion on certain tags and kinks but once again on this site there's a black list made for you to not have to be able to see pictures with them (also they're still fictional).

[quote]"legoking":/users/1046065 said: All this talent, used for this shit. I mean all people are inclined to what they like, but this kind of fetish is something I WILL critique and hate on. Cucking/NtR fetishes are some of the most disgusting things I've ever seen. Give me hate for it I don't care, it would only help my point. [/quote] Eh, people all got their own kinks and within the realm of fiction it's totally harmless. I'd say there are definitely worse things to hold an attraction to. In the case of Naylor though it comes up so consistently and, paired with a lot of his other views, it feels like it's not a kink he's exploring in fiction but the sorta thing he wishes to act on in real life if the opportunity ever arose.

[quote]"edthefrog":/users/837673 said: I remember when 4chan went feral on him for a bunch of his takes in ye olden days. Has it really been over 15 years? I miss my wife, Tails. [/quote] what happened I don't really know about this artist

[quote]"legoking":/users/1046065 said: What is his obsession with cheating/cuck stories? I swear, there isn't one fucking wholesome thing he's done that's not inherently got something linked with this. It's never sweet, there's always some extra person involved. [/quote] It's a wish fulfillment thing. He constantly imagines himself as the Bigger Dicked Alpha Male who sleeps with everyone sexy by virtue of his superior penis. You can always tell when he's writing a self insert because the character getting fucked will start on a long inner monologue on how this cock is definitely the best thing ever and how it's her place to be submissive to it and how could she ever be satisfied by any other penis that isn't this one.

[quote]"just-some-guy":/users/571640 said: He's [i]aggressively[/i] right wing libertarian and lets it bleed into everything he makes. For years his sfw-ish main comic was his personal self-insert character was either getting into strawman arguments, fucking his sister, or being a special forces soldier that kills all the bad guys. He's also made some uh... lets say questionable choices regarding race representation in his comics (like all jewish characters are portrayed as mice, all black characters are hyenas that speak in super stereotyped slang, etc) and he has a huuuuuuuuuuuuge cuckoldry fetish. There was also a lot of old drama between other artists back in the day, but I never followed any of that so I can't comment. All I can say with absolute certainty is that it's damn near impossible to read any of his work without seeing him soapbox on some level while jerking himself in a pretentious manner. [/quote] What is his obsession with cheating/cuck stories? I swear, there isn't one fucking wholesome thing he's done that's not inherently got something linked with this. It's never sweet, there's always some extra person involved.

[quote]"ginkei":/users/226606 said: Kadath is another good furry artist that also got complaints because of the way he portrayed Nightshade and Patrick's relationship despite that people can also ignore it (use the blacklist) and honestly she still cares about him. [/quote] Ehh, that is one of the relationships I find skeptical. Idk how she loves him when she constantly fucks other dudes right in front of him

[quote]"rpg-gamer":/users/97611 said: At first I read "When your husband wants to fuck other men..." I was so hyped for gay Jay art.[/quote] I'm wondering why JN has that habit of gay teasing his fans with several instances of gay stuff that last one panel or one page if we're being lucky.

[I]And this is the closest we'll ever get to seeing into the life of Jada Pinkett Smith.[/i]

What eventually happens to every cuckold couple

At first I read "When your husband wants to fuck other men..." I was so hyped for gay Jay art.

[quote]"arquila8000":/users/1688669 said: As excepcional Jay naylor's art is i always wondered what are the controversies surrounding him besides his most kinkier stuff like bdsm and cheating in general. [/quote] [quote]"just-some-guy":/users/571640 said: He's [i]aggressively[/i] right wing libertarian and lets it bleed into everything he makes. For years his sfw-ish main comic was his personal self-insert character was either getting into strawman arguments, fucking his sister, or being a special forces soldier that kills all the bad guys. He's also made some uh... lets say questionable choices regarding race representation in his comics (like all jewish characters are portrayed as mice, all black characters are hyenas that speak in super stereotyped slang, etc) and he has a huuuuuuuuuuuuge cuckoldry fetish. There was also a lot of old drama between other artists back in the day, but I never followed any of that so I can't comment. All I can say with absolute certainty is that it's damn near impossible to read any of his work without seeing him soapbox on some level while jerking himself in a pretentious manner. [/quote] There was also that time that he used some of his characters in a comic to announce that he was going to start dating again irl in the most self aggrandizing only someone with that much of his nose up his own ass could come up with. Or the time he said he 'cured' his bisexuality. Or that time in one of his comics people were agreeing with his straw-woman, so he character assassinated her to make sure everyone knew they shouldn't agree with her because she's a bad person. I'm not even talking about is political takes here (Which, tbf, I'm also not a fan of), just his pseudointellectualism and superiority complex often shows in his writing. Which is rich for someone with a cuck fetish. I always like to say it when I get the chance: The worst part of Jay Naylor comics is that Jay Naylor wrote it.

[quote]"slipperygrippy":/users/331292 said: >see short yiff comic with great art >go into comments and it's filled with politics Why is the furry community like this? Why can't we all just peacefully be degens and either enjoy or move on? We're all here to jack off. What's more of a turn off then politics? [/quote] I don’t think all of us are “degenerates”

[quote]"whitemarble":/users/388872 said: What would you say about Spiegel's portrayal of polish people as pigs, then? I'm genuinely curious [/quote] This will sound like a huge cop out answer, but analysis and opinion on Spiegel's work is a lot more nuanced than a porn comment section is meant for so this is gonna be a fairly simplified and abridged answer but here goes: As a whole Maus is a really interesting work though since the use of animals was actually used less as a means of clear racial to species differences but one of perception of demographic. It's metaphor, not literal. Like there's a scene where a man in the camp is first portrayed as a mouse, like all other occupants, but as he speaks he explains he was a german solider in WW1but is now a prisoner like the others. In the very next panel that same character is drawn as a cat instead, the chosen animal to represent Germans. It's the same man in the same prison garb suffering the same horrors, but in the eyes of the nazis he was a mouse but in the eyes of the Jewish prisoners he was a cat. With that in mind I don't think the animal of pigs being used to represent Poles was to imply a racial prejudice or stereotype, like implying all Polish people are slovenly or boorish, but was rather chosen to display visual difference of demographic for the reader. Why specifically pigs? I dunno. Maybe easier to draw as an anthro than a different animal, maybe because pigs as an animal aren't inherently predatory to mice, as the cat to Nazi allegory would be, but are not helpful or protective of them either so a "neutral" species was chosen. I'd have to see Spiegel's own comments to know further.

[quote]"unholyjesus420":/users/2269752 said: She could make a good TCM to be honest.[/quote] What does that mean? [quote]"whitemarble":/users/388872 said: Maus by Art Spiegel depicted all jewish characters as mice, Spiegel is jewish and Maus was about his father's experience as an Auschwitz prisoner. The same graphic novel also depicted germans as cats, poles as pigs, and americans as dogs. Stories with anthro characters using different species of animals to depict different ethnic or cultural groups is nothing new, hell, Redwall was doing it in the 80s. I've thought Jay Naylor is a smug, narcissistic asshole for a long time but this isn't really a good point to try to nail him on.[/quote] [quote]"just-some-guy":/users/571640 said: I'm aware of Maus. I'm also aware that the choice of using mice to portray Jewish characters in Spiegel's story is rooted in the fact that the nazi propaganda machine constantly portrayed them as vermin and rats. It's a *very* old stereotype and he was using it in defiance of the negative connotations that had been forced on his family. I'm not saying that the portrayal of different races as different animals is new or necessarily bad in furry art, ESPECIALLY when it's used as a means of expressing the problems faced by ones own demographic, I'm saying that Naylor approaches it with all of the tact you'd expect of somebody that idolizes Ayn Rand which is to say [i]badly.[/i][/quote] I think the issue is more of the behaviour of the people portrayed than their species. I still kinda like that black people aren't always portrayed as horses nor zebras [spoiler](because of the whole big dick thing which may be frankly a ridiculous allegory)[/spoiler] but why hyenas and not just African animals in general (I think some furry artists did that)? That would've made sense since there's not one species to portray white people in his comics (also Native Americans being raccoons could make sense since those are native from the American continent yet Asians are not really portrayed by one species as I recall). It's ironic that the propaganda portrayed them as rats since it has been proven they are one of the smartest species next to dolphins and they have a high adaptability capacity (so they could survive a nuclear holocaust). PS: Although I understand that for humans, regardless of the ethnic group we are all still [i]homo sapiens sapiens[/i] so different species may not make sense in a biological way.

[quote]"just-some-guy":/users/571640 said: I'm aware of Maus. I'm also aware that the choice of using mice to portray Jewish characters in Spiegel's story is rooted in the fact that the nazi propaganda machine constantly portrayed them as vermin and rats. It's a *very* old stereotype and he was using it in defiance of the negative connotations that had been forced on his family. I'm not saying that the portrayal of different races as different animals is new or necessarily bad in furry art, ESPECIALLY when it's used as a means of expressing the problems faced by ones own demographic, I'm saying that Naylor approaches it with all of the tact you'd expect of somebody that idolizes Ayn Rand which is to say [i]badly.[/i] [/quote] What would you say about Spiegel's portrayal of polish people as pigs, then? I'm genuinely curious

[quote]"just-some-guy":/users/571640 said: I'm aware of Maus. I'm also aware that the choice of using mice to portray Jewish characters in Spiegel's story is rooted in the fact that the nazi propaganda machine constantly portrayed them as vermin and rats. It's a *very* old stereotype and he was using it in defiance of the negative connotations that had been forced on his family. I'm not saying that the portrayal of different races as different animals is new or necessarily bad in furry art, ESPECIALLY when it's used as a means of expressing the problems faced by ones own demographic, I'm saying that Naylor approaches it with all of the tact you'd expect of somebody that idolizes Ayn Rand which is to say [i]badly.[/i] [/quote] Ayn Rand was Jewish too. I'm not a fan of hers either, but all this pearl clutching and drama about Naylor's politics seems pretty silly to me. This is cartoon porn we're talking about. Frankly our society needs a little less "tact" so people will learn to have thicker skin again.

[quote]"whitemarble":/users/388872 said: Maus by Art Spiegel depicted all jewish characters as mice, Spiegel is jewish and Maus was about his father's experience as an Auschwitz prisoner. The same graphic novel also depicted germans as cats, poles as pigs, and americans as dogs. Stories with anthro characters using different species of animals to depict different ethnic or cultural groups is nothing new, hell, Redwall was doing it in the 80s. I've thought Jay Naylor is a smug, narcissistic asshole for a long time but this isn't really a good point to try to nail him on [/quote] I'm aware of Maus. I'm also aware that the choice of using mice to portray Jewish characters in Spiegel's story is rooted in the fact that the nazi propaganda machine constantly portrayed them as vermin and rats. It's a *very* old stereotype and he was using it in defiance of the negative connotations that had been forced on his family. I'm not saying that the portrayal of different races as different animals is new or necessarily bad in furry art, ESPECIALLY when it's used as a means of expressing the problems faced by ones own demographic, I'm saying that Naylor approaches it with all of the tact you'd expect of somebody that idolizes Ayn Rand which is to say [i]badly.[/i]

[quote]"just-some-guy":/users/571640 said: like all jewish characters are portrayed as mice[/quote] Maus by Art Spiegel depicted all jewish characters as mice, Spiegel is jewish and Maus was about his father's experience as an Auschwitz prisoner. The same graphic novel also depicted germans as cats, poles as pigs, and americans as dogs. Stories with anthro characters using different species of animals to depict different ethnic or cultural groups is nothing new, hell, Redwall was doing it in the 80s. I've thought Jay Naylor is a smug, narcissistic asshole for a long time but this isn't really a good point to try to nail him on

She could make a good TCM to be honest.

Kadath is another good furry artist that also got complaints because of the way he portrayed Nightshade and Patrick's relationship despite that people can also ignore it (use the blacklist) and honestly she still cares about him.

[quote]"ganto":/users/1352033 said: Accused? Didn't he literally do drawings like this before? [/quote] eh, i can't find anything like that among the 'cuckold'-tagged posts here. the closest thing is an open relationship without any rules specified, or, in a different way, "breakup" messages showing betrayal.

That comment section... Every time, that's typical. [quote]"unholyjesus420":/users/2269752 said: Also, just a reminder, wearing a condom isn't just made for preventing pregnancy. Wearing a condom can also prevent the transfer of many STD's. Even if you and your sexual partner get tested and either or are on birth control, it's still a good idea to wear a condom. There is no real sex log, you can't see who've they'd had sex with previously, they could have fucking anything. Don't trust condoms 100% though, anything can go wrong. However, just in general, wear a condom.[/quote] Absolutely, it should be obvious for everyone with a proper sex ed and the furry world is still a fictional one where there's never any issues unless the author wants to do accidental pregnancies. I remember a sentence about "sleeping with someone unprotected is like sleeping with every of their previous partners". Also to be honest even in that kind of relationship the rule about "Nobody else is allowed to cum inside" is more of a moral one (even if they have ways to not get pregnant).

[quote]"spthrowaway1254":/users/845954 said: Fucking finally! If you're going to constantly be accused of being a cuck artist you might as well go all in and draw some actual cuck comics [/quote] Accused? Didn't he literally do drawings like this before?

I missed the "you" in the first text globe and was so confused. I was like "So, when is the husband getting it?"

[quote]"arquila8000":/users/1688669 said: As excepcional Jay naylor's art is i always wondered what are the controversies surrounding him besides his most kinkier stuff like bdsm and cheating in general. [/quote] He's [i]aggressively[/i] right wing libertarian and lets it bleed into everything he makes. For years his sfw-ish main comic was his personal self-insert character was either getting into strawman arguments, fucking his sister, or being a special forces soldier that kills all the bad guys. He's also made some uh... lets say questionable choices regarding race representation in his comics (like all jewish characters are portrayed as mice, all black characters are hyenas that speak in super stereotyped slang, etc) and he has a huuuuuuuuuuuuge cuckoldry fetish. There was also a lot of old drama between other artists back in the day, but I never followed any of that so I can't comment. All I can say with absolute certainty is that it's damn near impossible to read any of his work without seeing him soapbox on some level while jerking himself in a pretentious manner.

Didn't even realize at first that every panel has a different guy lol

[quote]"metalasmodeus":/users/569368 said: He and his fans are definitely fans of “relationship anxiety” stories. I wonder if it’s an outlet for what they worry about when it comes to things like open relationships, unrequited love, or a relationship that burned out down the road. [/quote] He draws what his fans want to see.

Also, just a reminder, wearing a condom isn't just made for preventing pregnancy. Wearing a condom can also prevent the transfer of many STD's. Even if you and your sexual partner get tested and either or are on birth control, it's still a good idea to wear a condom. There is no real sex log, you can't see who've they'd had sex with previously, they could have fucking anything. Don't trust condoms 100% though, anything can go wrong. However, just in general, wear a condom.

This is probably the most disliked comment chain i have even seen

[quote]"spthrowaway1254":/users/845954 said: Fucking finally! If you're going to constantly be accused of being a cuck artist you might as well go all in and draw some actual cuck comics [/quote] [quote]"unholyjesus420":/users/2269752 said: He might actually be taking recommendations and advice from Patreon Members. [/quote] He and his fans are definitely fans of “relationship anxiety” stories. I wonder if it’s an outlet for what they worry about when it comes to things like open relationships, unrequited love, or a relationship that burned out down the road.

Fucking finally! If you're going to constantly be accused of being a cuck artist you might as well go all in and draw some actual cuck comics

[quote]"metalasmodeus":/users/569368 said: I think this is Jay Naylor letting his OPINIONS run loose again [/quote] He might actually be taking recommendations and advice from Patreon Members.

Do as she says not as she does.

[quote]"arquila8000":/users/1688669 said: As excepcional Jay naylor's art is i always wondered what are the controversies surrounding him besides his most kinkier stuff like bdsm and cheating in general. [/quote] I'd also like to know. There's always this palpable aura of dislike around them.

Rules are made to be broken ❤️

As excepcional Jay naylor's art is i always wondered what are the controversies surrounding him besides his most kinkier stuff like bdsm and cheating in general.

Looks like the rules were STRICKLY adhered to!

[quote]"metalasmodeus":/users/569368 said: I think this is Jay Naylor letting his OPINIONS run loose again [/quote] I remember when 4chan went feral on him for a bunch of his takes in ye olden days. Has it really been over 15 years? I miss my wife, Tails.

I think this is Jay Naylor letting his OPINIONS run loose again